Curse

alexkapi12 · Dec 07, 2007, 05:15 AM // 05:15

Now that the Zaishen Chest are popular and they drop rare items everyone is going to get or buy keys for the chest and chest runs wont be happening as the chest is easy to get to.I dont like the sound of that Zaishen Chest woluld be destroying the game

holababe · Dec 07, 2007, 05:17 AM // 05:17

So far the chest doesn't seem to be dropping anything gamebreaking.
5k faction seems overpriced for the spread you can get (a flask of firewater to a decent weapon)

alexkapi12 · Dec 07, 2007, 05:18 AM // 05:18

that could be but many guilds are good and people from the huge guilds are selling over 100 keys!
Not only they will make money good items could drop
The common price for the key is 2k
lets say you got an elite tome that is worth 10k
you guys got 8k for free and even more if it was a good weapon

Savio · Dec 07, 2007, 05:21 AM // 05:21

1. The economy is already bad.
2. People do chest runs in PvE already.
3. Most of the time people get crap from the chest.

capitalist · Dec 07, 2007, 05:25 AM // 05:25

Is there a way to link back to "The Economy's Dead" threads from 2 years ago?

HawkofStorms · Dec 07, 2007, 06:23 AM // 06:23

People will still do chest runs because the Zaizhen chest doesn't count towards the Treasure Hunter title.

strcpy · Dec 07, 2007, 07:27 AM // 07:27

Yes, I agree. Due to the fact that PvE chest runners are the backbone of our economy having this one chests that spits out mostly Firewater and Creme Brule's will destroy everything. Even worse no one will ever play PvE anymore and will only be playing PvP in order to grind out 5000 faction (chest running being the whole game and all).

Er, or maybe we will not see an effect at all since the rewards aren't good (and if anything currently rare drops from it at a greater chance than other places in the game then it will cease to be rare and a desired drop), it doesn't give any points to a title, and you have to PvP to get keys.

Not sure which one it is though.

NeHoMaR · Dec 07, 2007, 07:34 AM // 07:34

Zaishen Chest will NOT destroy economy.

The "boom" is just today, because some of us have a lot of faction/point accumulated (30 keys in my case), but tomorrow you will need 5k faction per key, just nothing in comparison to PvE drops.

Roshi_ikkyu · Dec 07, 2007, 07:37 AM // 07:37

Give it a week and the only people buying or PvPing for keys will be people who don't know better.

Seriously from the sounds of it the faction cost is too high for the outcome, flask firewater, and the weapons dropping are crap.

Skyy High · Dec 07, 2007, 07:38 AM // 07:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexkapi12

that could be but many guilds are good and people from the huge guilds are selling over 100 keys!
Not only they will make money good items could drop
The common price for the key is 2k
lets say you got an elite tome that is worth 10k
you guys got 8k for free and even more if it was a good weapon

Or, in about 50% of the cases, you get booze, a tonic, or a sweet from it, and you've wasted ~1.5k. The price is 2k for a reason: it's a gamble.

Yarghetaus · Dec 07, 2007, 09:08 AM // 09:08

Personally I won't waste points in Zaishen keys, rewards range is too wide from valuable gold to crappy alcohol/sweet.

So no, I don't think they will end the PvE chest-running at all.

Cold Hearted Zero · Dec 07, 2007, 09:17 AM // 09:17

Finally something to spend faction on

zwei2stein · Dec 07, 2007, 09:17 AM // 09:17

PvE chestrunning is about title anyway, this does not give it, so, pointless to try to get keys for sake of them.

But as bath faction sink, its excelent.

Friar Khan · Dec 07, 2007, 09:33 AM // 09:33

This update is good and 5k faction isn't too much. The chest gives PvPers who've unlocked everything already a chance to get something with their faction.

Yanman.be · Dec 07, 2007, 09:46 AM // 09:46

doesn't add to title ftl

Lagg · Dec 07, 2007, 09:59 AM // 09:59

Didn't it die with Hard Mode and loot scaling already?

aapo · Dec 07, 2007, 10:07 AM // 10:07

Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

1. When person plays PvP he doesn't play PvE, can we agree with this?
2. If person couldn't play PvP he would play PvE or not play at all, can we agree with this?
3. When person plays PvE he gets drops and gold, can we agree with this?
4. Now person gets same things when playing PvP and PvE. If we agree with #1, #2 and #3 then economy stays the same.

ricocheting · Dec 07, 2007, 10:14 AM // 10:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by capitalist

Is there a way to link back to "The Economy's Dead" threads from 2 years ago?

compared to 2 years ago, the economy is beyond dead. my first +30hp bow grip i ever sold, I got 140k for it and the person buying thought they got the best deal ever... do I even have to say what I finally got for one I was trying to sell yesterday ...? so current market is about 1% of it's original worth? guess that doesn't classify as dead enough for some people though.

ghostlyfenix · Dec 07, 2007, 10:56 AM // 10:56

lol........economy for rare weps always drop and with zaishen chest , its already happening, i cant even sell my q11 styg reaver for 100k+10e and voltaics, crysts, eternals already having sudden drop in price

oldschool is the way to go

pumpkin pie · Dec 07, 2007, 11:13 AM // 11:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by aapo

Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

1. When person plays PvP he doesn't play PvE, can we agree with this?
2. If person couldn't play PvP he would play PvE or not play at all, can we agree with this?
3. When person plays PvE he gets drops and gold, can we agree with this?
4. Now person gets same things when playing PvP and PvE. If we agree with #1, #2 and #3 then economy stays the same.

you lost me at Dur can you please explain again? have you been watching I-Robot?